Re: AX.25 and third-party
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- Subject: Re: AX.25 and third-party
- From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Walter D. DuBose - K5YFW)
- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 22:53:05 CST
- In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 10 Dec 94 20:35:00 -0000
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Greetings Mike and All,
In message <firstname.lastname@example.org> you write:
> Exactly what constitutes third-party operation is not clear in the rules.
> For example, the FCC recently acted to straighten out a lot of the
> issues governing messages relayed by the conventional store and forward
> packet BBS network.
I hope this clears up anyones questions conecrning what the FCC
considers "third-party" communications.
The following questions from the "approved" question pool should make it
perfectly clear what "third-party commenications" are.
These questions are in the current Novice and Technician pool which VEs
draw from to prepare Novice and Technician test.
Question Correct Answer Rule
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N1I01 (A) [97.3a39]
What is the definition of third-party communications?
A. A message sent between two amateur stations for someone else
B. Public service communications for a political party
C. Any messages sent by amateur stations
D. A three-minute transmission to another amateur
N1I09 (B) [97.3a42]
What is a "third-party" in amateur communications?
A. An amateur station that breaks in to talk
B. A person who is sent a message by amateur communications
other than a control operator who handles the message
C. A shortwave listener who monitors amateur communications
D. An unlicensed control operator
N1I11 (D) [97.115a2]
When are you allowed to transmit a message to a station in a
foreign country for a third party?
C. Anytime, unless there is a third-party agreement between the
US and the foreign government
D. If there is a third-party agreement with the US government,
or if the third party could be the control operator
T1E08 (D) [97.115a2]
When are third-party messages allowed to be sent to a foreign
A. When sent by agreement of both control operators
B. When the third party speaks to a relative
C. They are not allowed under any circumstances
D. When the US has a third-party agreement with the foreign
country or the third party is qualified to be a control operator
> However, the application of those rules to IP is not clear. If you send
> a message via SMTP, which causes the message to be cut up into pieces
> that are> sent in different frames, are these frames third-party traffic
> from the point of view of a router on the network? These frames may not
> even be routed on the same path.
You have to consider the message as a whole. You would not consider
each word or letter a message when passing 3rd-party traffic on CW nor
should you consider the message cut into pieces during transmission as